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Tuesday, April 23, 2024

Lions Mouth and the missing Cave

Original Post April 15th 2015


 Now Lions Mouth glyph site is a long way from the following story, but I place this story here as Lions Mouth is similar to the appearance of glyphs that were found long ago in a cave, found by blasting the end of the mountain away... Yet Lions Mouth Glyphs is a small drop in the bucket as to what the cave in the following had.




In the mid to late 1960's when I was just a wee whipper snapper, my friends father and future scout master was working on the I-80 road project to Wendover from Salt Lake City. Just one mile east of the Skull Valley turn off, he recalls one day a dynamite blast trimming of the end of the mountain to make way for the new super highway... as the dust cleared one of the men working the site hollered out "there is a cave here!" A few of the workers went to investigate and according to my friends father now deceased, he said there was a cave that was covered with pictographs, some of the most elaborate he had ever seen and he has seen many in his day.

To his knowledge nothing was done to document or photographs the paintings and a few more charges were set which sent the remainder of the cave and pictographs to eternal oblivion... I hope that he is wrong and I hope someone did something to preserve the ancient history that was likely preserved in the paintings. If anyone has any information as to whether these pictographs were documented, I would certainly like to know. I do not know how to discover the answer as no one, even after all these years is going to admit to anything.

I first heard of Lions Mouth Pictographs from a friend in about 1998, who lives nearby. It would seem that every time I tried to get there something always prevented it. Ever since my scout master told me the above story, whenever I hear of a new site, I have butterflies in my stomach, until the site is documented, Well, I must say, it was worth the wait, and although the site is vulnerable to vandalism, it remains untouched... I'd really like to keep this timeline in tact...

Lions Mouth Pictographs
April 19th 2015

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Thursday, April 18, 2024

Pre Columbian Horses in America



I have been tempted many times in the past to write regarding this topic, however for several reasons I have avoided it. One in particular is in that throughout my studies of the last 35 years or so, the information I had gathered concerning this topic I have found to be much more entailed than I could ever reproduce, the authors of which and articles they wrote are incredible and cannot be dismissed but only in that pure ignorance will permit. I will provide links to these very informative articles at the end. 

In one such article it is mentioned that “most historians, geographers, and anthropologists, the American Indians knew nothing about horses until the 17th century. Political, religious, and economic motives were behind the emergence of theories that the New World was “isolated” from the Old World and that Indians didn’t have any horses until after Columbus. Earlier reports of Indian horses were dismissed by academic leaders as being groundless “fables.” Claims by elders of the Sioux, Nez Perce, Chippewa, and Pawnee Tribes that their ancestors “always had horses” were cast aside by the academic authorities as being “wishful thinking.”

 

Several powerful movements combined to crush and stifle claims that ancestors of the Plains Indians had horses and “horse culture” for thousands of years.(R. T. Fitz)

I would very much so agree that oppression of truth was due to Political, religious, and economic motives, Someone please explain to me in words that make sense as to why it matters that Horses were in America long before Columbus? Why did it matter that it be unknown the existence of Parrot and Pumpkin before Columbus when in fact the two words are of Greek origin? How did the Greeks know what they were? Dont get me started on corn. 

I believe one of the primary reasons some things are carefully hushed is control, these powerful movements mentioned above do not want you to know that there have been several cultures who not only ventured upon this continent but has had mass colonization at times why does it matter whether we call them Gadianton/Greeks, Romans or Pueblo people? And now instead of Anasazi, Nephites or Greeks, we now have Ancestral Pueblo. 

There is another reason, a religious one... that few venture to mention… It is well know by religious bashers of the past that these strange people called Mormons, within the pages of their Book of Mormon, mentions that the people within had horses… But lets stop there for a minute and expose the motive… in 1828 or so, two men you might find interesting by the names of Ephraim G. Squire and John W. Powell, yes the very same two men who high jacked the Smithsonian Institute for their own purposes and for those in which pulled their strings in an effort to keep the past hidden… Well it may be interesting to note that Mr. Squire and Mr, Powell whose fathers were Methodist Ministers in Palmyra New York at the time in which Joseph Smith started preaching the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ. As a result the majority of the towns people who were Methodist joined the organization of the Mormons leaving but a few to attend the ministers now empty churches.

I hold as truth that this event carried on to the ministers sons, and as part of the curriculum of Smithsonian, ANYHING which gives credibility to the story of the Book of Mormon is to be destroyed or hidden away, I could go on with numerous examples… In these modern times, anything in which give credence to the Bible or even God is suppressed. 

I suppose this would be a very good reason to keep hidden the existence of horses prior to Columbus. We can’t have the public knowing that people of India have colonized this continent… successfully I might add… the first Americans, the ancestors of those whom we know as Altai Mongolian, Chinese, Hebrews, Greeks and Romans not to mention pre-Columbian Welsh, Portuguese and Norsemen otherwise known as Vikings, another misused word of the past. With an exception of a few, most of the pre mentioned cultures were here looking for the same place, some received their information from the Imperial Library of Constantinople, before the controllers burn it… or from the Library of Alexandria before they burned it… or even the ancient libraries of India before the Greeks over ran it. 

I have a theory, man has been building boats and crossing the seas ever since that guy Noah did… and likely before… 

The articles I mentioned do not give any information regarding a well respected Archaeologist and Anthropologist and professor at University of New Mexico who held many titles… Frank C. Hibben and his research and discoveries of horses in New Mexico and Alaska, instead of acknowledging his work, those of the powerful movements waited until he died in 2002 and then began to destroy his reputation casting doubt on his discoveries when he can no longer defend himself.

Sandia Cave New Mexico WIKI

The cave was discovered in 1936. The site was excavated in the 1930s and 1940s by Frank Hibben while at the University of New Mexico. He claimed to have found the oldest known evidence of humans in the new world, and found a new culture, whose artifacts resembled those of western Europeans, strongly suggesting the first inhabitants of the Americas were Europeans and not far eastern Asiatic as traditionally told. For these reasons the site became so important in the public's mind it was made into a National Historic Landmark in 1961. (Then follows the smere…)

 

Frozen Muck Alaska, shorter report

“In Alaska thick frozen deposits of soil, boulder, plant and animal exist, commonly known as "muck". Prof. Frank C. Hibben of the University of New Mexico described these deposits: "In many places, Alaskan muck is packed with animal bones and debris in trainload lots. Bones of mammoths, mastodons, several kind of bison, horses, wolves, bears and lions tell a story of a faunal population. Within this frozen mass lie the twisted parts of animals and trees intermingled with lenses of ice and layers of peat and mosses. It looks as though in the midst of some cataclysmic catastrophe of ten thousand years ago the whole Alaskan world of living animals and plants was suddenly frozen in mid-motion like a grim charade twisted and torn trees are piled in splintered masses  at least four considerable layers of volcanic ash may be traced in these deposits, although they are extremely warped and distorted"

 

This suggests that although volcanoes were erupting, other forces were required to dismember these animals - with mighty floods and hurricanes being the most likely.

 

"Fossil bones are astonishingly abundant in frozen ground of Alaska, but articulated bones are scarce, and complete skeletons, except for rodents that died in their burrows, are almost unknown. The dispersal of the bones is as striking as their abundance and indicates general destruction of soft parts prior to burial."

 

Meanwhile in Siberia, mammoths were being wiped out in a similar manner. Massive graveyards of their remains have been mined for ivory tusks. It has been estimated that more than half a million tons of mammoth tusks were buried along Siberia's Arctic coastline, which equates to roughly five million mammoths. Several dozen frozen mammoth carcasses have been found with the flesh still intact. They died suddenly. In their stomachs can be found undigested vegetation, including grass, bluebells, wild beans and buttercups, food typically available in the summer. Scientists examining them have concluded that three of the mammoths died of asphyxiation. The cause of death of the others has not been determined.

  

For a copy of the more in depth article and other very compelling articles click the link below…

 

Frozen Muck Frank C. Hibben in depth article

Fusang Discovery of America

Indian Horses BEFORE Columbus By R.T. Fitch

Native Americans used horses far earlier than historians had believed BY SAUL ELBEIN

Yes world, there were horses in Native culture before the settlers came BY Yvette Running Horse Collin

 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jU9Ruc68m9Cml97Bc8jwc9td3Wj_MNwl?usp=drive_link