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Saturday, February 22, 2025

Republic VRS Democracy

 Reposted with pleasure from Novemeber of 2022

"This is extremley dangerous to "OUR" Democracy"



PEOPLE!!! America is NOT a Democracy! 
and certainly NOT a FEDERAL DEMOCRACY!!
It is "thier' Democracy and who are "they"?
Who are these trolls? Who are these treasonist bastards!?


I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of America, and to the …. ???

How many of you said Democracy?


Republic VRS Democracy



KNOW the differences….

 

Although I rarely post anything political… this seems to fit right in with Jesse James, Smithsonian and related... so...

After watching History Channel for the last few months prior to the election, I couldn’t help but watching their agenda pushed with their new commercial played several times through each program to the point of annoying showing what is supposed to be the Greek Cleisthenes appearing in a voting booth and leading you to believe Democracy is a good thing being the will of the people, If only they would elaborate upon "the Will of the people" and the dangers that comes from it. Cleithenes being the man credited for the creation of the Athenian Democracy in about 525 BC. Yet the people still don’t learn, what government under a Democracy has ever been successful? To my knowledge every Democracy of the past has fallen… Have you ever lived in a Homeowners Association and been visited by the grass police? Perhaps you like living under their stringent and ridiculous rules, if so, carry on… but stay out of my town and neighborhood where we burn garbage in our back yard, piss off the back deck and invite the smell of a dairy farm...

Democracy allows the powers that be to rob you blind... many of you still think your tax dollars is paying for student loans and welfare recipients... why? because those who keep you in the dark with misinformation are very good at what they do.... IF you have a Social Security Trust Account with the Federal Reserve Bank, you need to learn how to use it to discharge ALL of your debt! Garanteed to you!

FEDERAL = FOREIGN

This country was formed upon the principles of a FREE Republic.

In short, a democracy is treasonous, the principles of which are in violation of a Free Constitutional Republic and nothing more than a damned glorified HOA with a group of Karens at the head.

30 some odd years ago during my Constitutional studies period I came across a book called the 1928 Soldiers Training Manual, I took notice because an all out effort was in place by the powers that be, to destroy this book and keep it from the public… Why I thought…. There are many text copies available, I highly recommend a read….

DOWNLOAD YOUR OWN COPY HERE: CITIZENSHIP 1928

From the 1928 Soldiers Training Manual

Official Definition of DEMOCRACY

NOTE

Here are four (4) facsimile section reproductions taken from a 156 page book officially compiled and issued by the U.S. War Department, November 30,1928, setting forth exact and truthful definitions of a Democracy and of a Republic, explaining the difference between both. These definitions were published by the authority of the United States Government and must be accepted as authentic in any court of proper jurisdiction. These precise and scholarly definitions of a Democracy and a Republic were carefully considered as a proper guide for U.S. soldiers and U.S. citizens by the Chief of Staff of the United States Army. Such definition stake precedence over any "definition" that may be found in the present commercial dictionaries which have suffered periodical "modification" to please "the powers in office. Shortly after the "bank holiday" in the thirties, hush-hush orders from the White House suddenly demanded that all copies of this book be withdrawn from the Government Printing Office and the Army posts, to be suppressed and destroyed without explanation. This was the beginning of the complete red control of the Government from within, not from without.


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Prepared under the direction of the Chief of Staff.

CITIZENSHIP


This manual supersedes Manual of Citizenship Training The use of the publication "The Constitution of the United States," by Harry Atwood, is by permission and courtesy of the author.

CITIZENSHIP Democracy:

A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy

CITIZENSHIP Republic:

Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress. Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world. A republic is a form of government under a constitution which provides for the election of (1) an executive and (2) a legislative body, who working together in a representative capacity, have all the power of appointment, all power of legislation, all power to raise revenue and appropriate expenditures, and are required to create (3) a judiciary to pass upon the justice and legality of their government acts and to recognize (4) certain inherent individual rights.

Take away any one or more of those four elements and you are drifting into autocracy. Add one or more to those four elements and you are drifting into democracy.

Atwood. Superior to all others.--Autocracy declares the divine right of kings; its authority can not be questioned; its powers are arbitrarily or unjustly administered. Democracy is the "direct" rule of the people and has been repeatedly tried without success. Our Constitutional fathers, familiar with the strength and weakness of both autocracy and democracy, with fixed principles definitely in mind, defined a representative republican form of government. They "made a very marked distinction between a republic and a democracy * * * and said repeatedly and emphatically that they had founded a republic."

 

"By order of the Secretary of War: C.P. Summerall, Major General, Chief of Staff. Official: Lutz Wahl, Major General, The Adjutant General. 

WHY DEMOCRACIES FAIL

A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of Government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that Democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.(Written by Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler, nearly two centuries ago while our thirteen original states were still colonies of Great Britain. At the time he was writing of the decline and fall of the Athenian Republic over two thousand years before

"Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive."

Westbrook Pegler: New York Journal American, January 25th and 26th, 1951, under the titles- Upholds Republic of U.S. Against Phony Democracy, Democracy in the U.S. Branded Meaningless


 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

Hosea 4:6

 



Sunday, February 16, 2025

Overthrow of the Republic

Original Post April 2015

Death of the Republic

Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up. (Book of Ether 8:14) 

In an effort to preserve Truth, and the History of this Nation which is clearly under attack, by foreign and domestic enemies, I write the following, it is not without error due to the weakness of the flesh, but I ask that you focus on the message and not the weaknesses of he who has presented it for consideration...


War is a terrible thing... War is never justified unless in self-defense from an encroaching seemingly unstoppable intended assault against natural God Given Rights, otherwise, war is never justified unless commanded of God, and to me these are truths.

There are certain principles as wrong as they may be and are from times of old, instituted by those who are the master manipulators, the conductors of war in bringing it about, Divide, Distract and Conquer, and if need be, Divide, Distract, and Conquer again. These concepts are as old as man himself. 

Divide in this case means to divide the opinions, ideals, priorities and/or perspectives of men often through the controlled media to put them one against another, causing confusion, creating classes of individuals by various ways, especially the use of the all powerful words by labeling, this creates diversity which in turn when fed by the media of whatever source derived, leads to strife and eventually through the same media sources, war. Justification of accelerating the idea to the brinks of war is pushed by the predominate opinion receiving support of media and becoming the orthodox belief. ALL politicians and media who have at any time fomented the idea of a “Federal Democracy” in this nation, are guilty of Treason…

Distraction is now created by orchestrating events of happenings to give further justification of the predominant opinion, which is now a near orthodox belief. Remember the Main, the Twin Towers, the Oklahoma City bombings, and Pearl Harbor, just to name a few. Other more profound and noticeable distractions are created to keep the minds busy of those who fell for the fallacy, and to sway those who remained neutral with respect to the intended view, which usually becomes a popular belief, as no one wants to be a part of a losing team.

The Conquering is at this point, already in motion, yet war soon follows forcing false ideals upon those who did not fall for its trickery, making it a way of life becoming an orthodox belief.

Now comes the part in which my popularity will diminish as a result of truth being presented. First let me say, I love this country, I do not however love what it has become. People rant and rave, and are victims of distractions by delusions created about this great country, a free country, a land of opportunity the greatest nation on the planet and this is the delusion 

Those who have been a part of our military whom I am grateful for, yet even many of them by the time they finish their tour of duty, see and feel something just isn’t right. There is a popular cliché that has grown by leaps and bounds in the past and today, and is quoted often as if it were true, this is the power of media and persistence. This cliché is promoted in several ways; one is often spoken by those who have served, in defense of the many who speak out against their actions, “I went to war to “defend” your freedom to be able to speak your mind.” They are convinced they were “defending” our freedoms of this country…while being… “Over There!”… in some other country.

You CANNOT DEFEND ANYTHING if you are not THERE to defend it! Ever since the First World War while our military was OVER THERE “defending” our country, evil men ambitious of power, foreign and domestic, have been HERE slowly stripping this nation of its freedoms. The only way to keep noble men from seeing the truth who are a part of our military is to keep them busy with distraction, because they WILL honor their oath, and to keep them from seeing or focusing on the foreign power or domestic enemy which has infringed upon the freedoms of America, and to keep them thinking they are involved in some noble cause “defending” our freedoms convincing them they are heroes, stroking their egos, while engaging in Wars… OVER THERE! And showering them with false concepts of honor, pride and decorating them with medals to justify what is blatantly wrong! How can you defend anything if you are not there defend it?

If these same brave men eager to defend and support their country knew that their employer was in fact not a government at all but a corporation set up to control the people of this nation for self gain, overthrowing the governments of other countries to set up their Federal Democracies and to take control of their fiat money systems in lieu of currency actually back by valuable substance such as gold… none who understood would support them.

Ever since the Civil War, NO MEN have fought in DEFENSE of this nation let alone its freedoms other than those who fought against the attack on Pearl Harbor, which was orchestrated in conjunction with the enemy as a distraction and justification of a much more heinous crime, annihilation of millions of people in Japan, all intended as a much larger demonstration of distraction. Why Pearl Harbor? Because it is the ONLY time since the civil war, I am aware of, in which an enemy came to the soil of American designated soil bringing war with them, and all the while, those whom the military are sworn to obey, were as much a part of the invasion as the enemy itself and in fact were the enemy! 

An additional note here is, at this very time there is an enemy encroaching upon this very land, a Trojan horse if you will; largely built by the terrorist we wish we hadn’t known, Obama and his Muslims. If you believe that these historically known and devote Christian killers are “migrants” and that they pose no harm to you, you deserve what is coming as a result. A few years ago during the Obama Trojan Horse building, I saw a bill board indoctrination sign off the side of the freeway, in Provo Utah, It said “2.3 billion Muslims are against terrorism” Would this be like saying 2.3 Billion Demons are against evil? READ the Quran, KNOW thy enemy… Don’t be fooled people, Islam is now being used as a means to an end by an even more so wickedness, that of greed and lust for power.  Satan is alive and well and he knows his time is short…. “My people perish for lack of knowledge” 

My people are destroyed for lack of a knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. (Hosea 4:6) 

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 

[Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 

And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 

That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:8-12)

 

The War of 1861

In short what the Civil War was about, was the exact opposite of what you have been taught. Rubbish you say? And my question is again, of what sources are your evidences to the contrary - but from the very books written by the carefully instructed liars, the designated historians of War. As always, history is written by the victors. 

Let’s step back into time a little further, back to the days of the 13 colonies, suffering from the oppressions of King George. Although the pilgrims had left their mother land to escape captivity and bondage, the many atrocities of and the oppressions by the crown, continued. If I have to tell you the details of what occurred in 1776 when our founding fathers won their independence from the British crown, you just might need to go back to sleep. These people establish the Declaration of Independence to cast off those atrocities against their God given rights, and cast off “Bondage and Captivity” NOT SLAVERY. 

The Israelites were not SLAVES they were in Bondage and Captivity, this means they had brought themselves into voluntary servitude to their masters by contract, a voluntary act in which the people were duped into giving up their freedoms. 

I will insert here and inform certain freinds... like it or not, the supreme law of this land at this time is UCC, Uniform Commercial Code,  CONTRACT LAW. Is this Gods Law? Perhaps the sanctioned Common Law or Law of the Land? or is it the law of men which commeth of evil? Doctrine and Covenants 98:4-15. 

All because they received not the love of the truth, can it happen again? It would seem biblical scholars have been duped and have never explained why the Israelites were so reluctant to leave Egypt! When Moses showed up and announced he was going to lead them out of Captivity, (confined to unjust law) and Bondage (Contractual Agreements) they thought he had lost his mind, “But Moses, Why would we want to leave? These Egyptians are taking great care of us, why, we have our low income housing, Veteran loans, Welfare, food stamps, unemployment, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Obama Care, Controlled Education, Head Start, a Special Milk Program and free cell phones! Why would we want to leave all this?” And when the people of this nation today are approached by one like unto Moses to lead them out of Bondage and Captivity, they are going to kick and scream because they have been lulled into the same carnal security.

You see, the best productive slave is one who does not know he is a slave, but if you put a fence around him and he will try to escape, but make him think he is free and shower him with benefits, and he will stay forever and even follow those sculpted to lead, even into battles of which we have no business… 

The British Crown and the elite of England in 1776 didn’t take their rejection kindly in the years leading up to the War of Independence. Later they attempted again to bring these rebels back under the British elitist thumbs by force in 1812 when Nathan Rothschild didn’t get his charter in 1811, but not enough time had passed and the people were still very much awake, and once again the oppressors were booted out. The process of dumbing up the people had to begin, and it did under the guidance of the Crown by those most proficient at it; the wealthy elite, today regarded as world bankers, the very same people who were to become the private owners of the Federal Reserve. 

Almost 50 years had gone by and the people fell sufficiently into carnal security, The united States was booming, Cotton in the South and industry in the North brought seeming prosperity. However Britain seeing the opportunity to divide, distract and conquer could not be made to look as a hypocrite and as a result enabled the Slavery Abolition Act of 1833.

 Physical slavery in America was no more a pleasant thing than it was in England; Slavery was implemented by Spaniards and the French long before Africans were brought to America. Even though here in America, there were at one time as many slave owners in the North as was the South, and lets not forget the black slave owners...  the slave numbers increased in the south as this is where the Cotton grew and it was the largest growing crop in America. It was the heart of their growing livelihood. However, in the North the industrialist were busy with their inventions such as the cotton gin and other things. Industrialism was the heart of their livelihood, but who would buy them as long as the same job their machines were designed to do was done with free labor? Now I do not want to insinuate in the slightest that this was the cause of the Civil War. There were many other things which led to its beginnings. The Slave issue was used as a distraction and justification of the process of Divide, Distract, and Conquer. It was the perfect situation to use in the World Bankers’ plans in conjunction with bringing these rebels back under the crown. “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” The people never knew what hit them, and the majority still don’t know. 

 Hypothetically speaking, let’s suppose the southern states were trying to implement into law the nonuse of cotton gins, making it unlawful to own one even in the North. Do you think the northern states, whose livelihood would have been under attack as a result, would have just stood by while congress enacted it into law? Well the Southern states were no different, but this is not what caused the seven congressmen from the southern states to walk out of a congressional session sine die prior to shots being fired in April of 1861.

Walking out of session sine die (Without setting a day to reconvene), by Law, meant Congress had ceased to exist, and by those same laws, in order to have a de jure government, a re-election of all government officials would have to be done, in other words, we were left without a de jure (real) government and continued as a de facto government. Yes, there were many atrocities against the African slaves, cruelties of the worst kind. This sort of thing had been going on since the days Cortez first set foot in the Americas to subjugate the Native Americans. However, there were also many sympathizing Europeans from these early times who although they owned slaves, were good to their slaves, If this were not true, why is it in some cases that kidnapped slaves for the purposes of freeing them, escaped from their liberators, and returned to their owner with no other motive than to serve them. Why it is many slaves after being freed, stayed with their former owner to work on their plantation? What of the black slave owners? What of the various tribes in Africa who were kidnapping their own, and selling them to the Europeans? There are ALWAYS two sides to a story; however deception has only one side to tell, the one which suits them best...

History, or those who wrote it, would have you believe that the 13th Amendment and the 14th Amendment came about AS A RESULT of the war, and in this they deceive you whether they knew the truth or not. The 13th Amendment was the equivalency of preventing the North from manufacturing their cotton gins and making it unlawful to make them, of course this didn’t set well with the south whether they were good to their slaves or not. Why in God’s name would a people go to war, because they wouldn’t buy a damned cotton gin? Why would those of the South watch as the war progressed seeing their plantations burned to the ground, their women and children tortured, raped boarded up in their churches by Northern Soldiers and burned alive all because they wouldn’t free their slaves or buy a damned cotton gin which would have clearly increased their crop production and harvesting? Something stinks.

Now let’s look at the 14th amendment which was sitting on the table as well with the 13th Amendment in place on that congressional day… But first consider the “Father of the 14th Amendment” Mr. John Bingham. A pretty cozy and sympathetic story is told about this man, his poor condition, being impoverished etc… and his sympathy to his recently freed black friend, Mr. Titus Basfield, and of course you get perhaps one side of the story. I just read about him only moments ago, and I knew what I was looking for, and none to my surprise, I found it. It is the link between the framer of the 14th Amendment (John Bingham), and an individual linked to the World Bankers of the time, a friend of Mr. Salmon Chase. Yes the same family as founded the Chase Manhattan, Chase Banks, the very Chase whom Lincoln kicked out of his office when he offered to loan the United States money at 27%, and one of Jesse James’s least favorite people, I wonder why? Chase would later conveniently become the Secretary of the Treasury of the de facto government, and Chief Justice for the Newly Created Corporation, THE UNITED STATES in 1871. The World Bankers had just the right person[s] to help foment their plot.



John Bingham and Salmon Chase are also two of the lesser involved suspect players in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, 

(SEE: The Assassination of Abraham Lincoln )

Now, Let’s pretend you are one of the Congressman of the south in 1861 and you are reading the proposed 14th amendment created by Salmon Chase of the World Bankers, er… I mean John Bingham, and just moments ago having read the 13th Amendment knowing that your livelihood has been severely affected, you likely would not be in the best of moods.

 Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Line 1 above, United States is with a capital U, this is not the former united states of America (proper upper and lower case) where in united is an adjective. However in the 14th amendment United States is a pronoun because it is the name of the new corporation which would eventually replace the now defunct free Republic government, you know, the one we swear allegiance to? Also notice the end words in line one “and subject to the jurisdiction” why did this have to be reaffirmed? you mean some were not? The first word, “persons” does not mean you or I, it means a corporate fiction, a nom de guerre, (the straw man) So this first line does not mean what you think. 

Line 2, “are citizens” prior to this unholy document Citizens with Constitutionally Protected rights, were with a capitol C as they were the superior to government having created it, however in this creation of the straw man by the foreign corporation, the voluntary member of this corporation or small c citizen is the now inferior. Continuing with line 2, of the United States (corporation) and the state where in they “reside,” people as in flesh and blood only reside when living somewhere other than their home, when a straw man is created, his home is Washington DC where the Corporation is, any other place where the actual flesh lives that has taken responsibility for the straw man, is the resident, reside means living somewhere other than your home. 

Line 3, notice this new small c citizen, has no rights, he has privileges OR immunities, but the straw man has no immunities, therefore, he is left with privileges, today we call this civil rights, yet there are no rights and you cannot have BOTH Constitutionally Protected Rights, and at the same time have civil rights. Notice I have said “Constitutionally Protected” Rights as there is no such thing as Constitutional Rights.

Constitutionally Protected Rights are God Given Rights, these rights are UN alienable, which means NOT possible to transfer your rights, IN alienable (Chattel) simply means not at this time, transference of rights can be made possible, evidenced by our finacial loan system, we won't mention mortgages.

Line 4, 5, and 6, persons have no life, liberty or property they have corporate rule, the equal protection is under UCC, Uniform Commercial Code, or (Contract Law) regulated by the Administrative Rules of Procedure created by Federal Law or Mans Law. 

Section 2 is new rules to follow for the new corporation, Section 3 is some of the same other than I would like to point out, that a Federal Constitution or Constitution of the United States, is NOT the same thing as the Constitution of the Free Republic of the untied states of America (proper upper lower case).

Section 4 of the 14th Amendment is the structuring ground work of the Federal Reserve or the World Bank takeover of the peoples’ rights by voluntary action, which would eventually force their currency upon them rather than the use of silver and gold. Notice it says, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, ……. shall not be questioned.” ??? Why not?

Validity synonyms are, accuracy, authenticity, binding, lawful, legal, legitimacy etc… So as it would seem, deception and fowl play was in the works because if they were going to make a law wherein we could not question the validity of it, the implication is that it is most certainly going to be a counterfeit debtillegal, illegitimate, unlawful, invalid, fake, or false debt (Opposing Antonyms) 

The short story here is this, the 7 congressmen of the southern states saw what was actually happening - an attempt to over throw the Free Republic of America, it’s legitimate governing body, and replace it with a FOREIGN Corporation posing as a government, owned and headed by the British elite or World Bankers, all for the purpose of CREATING Slavery by way of Bondage and Captivity! In the war between the states, the SOUTH was trying to stop this overthrow of government by this foreign corporation, and the creation of the straw man designed to be controlled by this foreign enemy that we call the FED, NOT the NORTH, the North was absolutely clueless to what was actually happening having been carefully indoctrinated with the falsehood that it was about freeing the physical enslaved man. 

NOTE: replace the word Federal in all that you know and replace it with the word Foreign, and this is the truth! 

President Lincoln is indisputably in his letter to Horace Greely:


“If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them.” 

“My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slaveryIf I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause." 

Why was Lincoln so concerned with the Union, even to the point of committing treason against the Free Republic of America? We were not currently at war with any foreign nation. 

He is also quoted, but denied of course by the academic, as saying: "In Saving the UnionI have destroyed the Republic, before me have I the Confederacy which I loathe, but behind me have I the bankers which I fear"

Why would Lincoln fear the bankers? I wonder… Why did Jesse James and the Confederacy always target the corporations, especially those owned by or connected with ANY of the world bankers? Why was Lincoln concerned for the Union, when we were not under attack by way of arms of a foreign country, and if we had come under attack by gun fire, I guarantee the southern states and the northern states would have once again joined forces in an effort to defend American soil… HERE… on this American soil.

President John F. Kennedy is quoted yet also denied by the academic as saying: "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the freedoms of America and before I leave this office, I must inform the citizens of their plight." 10 days later he was dead, and Hillary Rodham, still being groomed, was only 16 years old! 

Why would JFK say this? Well you now know… but, it is a well known fact that Kennedy had every intention of ridding America of the unholy Federal Reserve Bank. 

THIS   IS   WHAT   THE   CIVIL   WAR   WAS ABOUT! 

The south was trying to save the Republic! Not the damned Union! They were the HEROES! and despite the conflict of their own brothers from the north STILL gave their lives to repel this invasion of our country, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE who DEFENDED this country along with those of the Revolution, These are the people who fought for our FREEDOMS, and NONE OTHER.

The Pledge of Allegiance (of which a majority get their panties in a wad over) - what do you know of it? It was originally written in 1887 but was revised and finally adopted by CON-gress in 1945.

“I pledge allegiance to the flag, (an inanimate object) of the UNITED STATES of America, and to the what????? How many of you said Federal? How about Democracy? Federal Democracy maybe? Republic you say? My question to all of those same people is…. What Republic?

And what Flag is it they are swearing this allegiance to? Is it the flag of the Republic? Last seen in the 1860’s or the NEW Corporate Flag of this Foreign entity, this Foreign and yet Domestic Enemy, those whom the enlisted of the Military have sworn to protect us from? This flag of the UNITED STATES (Corporation) the American population pledge before this day, was created out of Title 4 USC 1 in 1947 and is an imposter! It IS NOT the flag of the Republic last seen in 1861 with 34 stars, It is the flag of the CORPORATION! The foreign power which has overthrown our Free Republic, our country and our land and is quickly eroding away our freedoms.

What are the differences between a true Republic and a true Democracy? In 1928 they knew! Why don’t we? 

From the 1928 soldiers training manual:

Democracy:

A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether is be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy

Republic:

Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them. Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences. A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass. Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress. Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world. A republic is a form of government under a constitution which provides for the election of (1) an executive and (2) a legislative body, who working together in a representative capacity, have all the power of appointment, all power of legislation, all power to raise revenue and appropriate expenditures, and are required to create (3) a judiciary to pass upon the justice and legality of their government acts and to recognize (4) certain inherent individual rights.

Take away any one or more of those four elements and you are drifting into autocracy. Add one or more to those four elements and you are drifting into democracy. 

Why didn’t Martin Luther KING contend in behalf of the African Americans for Constitutionally Protected Rights? Because they were not available to them. This is why he contended for any rights of which only civil rights were available and which can be bartered or taken away and are NOT rights at all! All King did was bring the African origin people back into slavery, but without the chains… Blaming the South, the Confederacy, for Slavery is ignoring the facts! Why don’t we blame the Spanish and Portuguese who purchased the Slaves. Why don’t we blame other  African tribes who captured and sold their own people to the Spanish, Portuguese and British! 

Yes the war between the states took the shackles and chains off from the physical slaves, but they immediately fell back into slavery by way of bondage and Captivity along with all other Americans. THIS IS WHAT Jesse James and the Confederacy were fighting against, to keep America free, freedom from foreign powers, freedom from taxation us a result of the use of a currency they were forced into using, freedom of religion, especially free from interference to regulate religion of which today there is no 501(C)(3) religion free from interference. You are free to worship your God, according to the dictates of Caesar. Freedom to own land in Allodial title and free from taxation, freedom to own a automobile without registration DOESN’T EXIST any longer thanks to the Northern puppets! You think you own your property? THINK again! Stop paying the tax and the real owner will soon show up, “but I have the title to my truck you say”… No you don’t, that is a CERTIFICATE of Title, where is the title? The pink slip? 

I suppose as long as you think you are free then all is well in Zion, but it needs to be understood, at the time of the Civil War, this country’s government, the Free Republic of America was utterly overthrown and wasted… and the southern states tried to stop it.

 

An interesting prophecy

On the head of Judge Douglas.

This one is for my many friends who are of the (LDS) Mormon Religion belief. I became aware of this prophecy many years ago, since then, I have sought after ANY written text whatsoever where in ANY authority or representation of these people has addressed this prophecy for authentication, only to find NONE! There have been some attempts to at least explain the first part of this purported prophecy which was not necessary as history has already stood as a witness. BUT WHY… has none of the Scholars, these so called educated men, those who should know, those you would expect to know, NEVER addressed the Overthrow of our government and why have they left it to their own oppressors the anti Mormons, to taunt them and believe it is a false prophecy because it is left unaddressed - the public being left believing it is a false prophecy because according to them, it didn’t happen.. but I am sorry to say It most certainly did.

The Prophecy on the Head of Stephen A. Douglas From the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Six 1843–44, p.302

The following brief account of the Prophet's visit with Judge Douglas while at Carthage is from the journal of William Clayton, who was present. For the fulfillment of this prophecy the reader is referred to the comments in the Documentary History of the Church, 5:395-398. 

NOTE: don’t waste your time looking up the Fulfillment of this prophecy in the Documented History as there is no “fulfillment” given. NOT ONE WORD is attributed to the Republic being over thrown and wasted, the entire article is a carefully written document to divert you from an answer, to keep you from asking why? They could not answer that part of the prophecy in 1902, because they did not know… WHY?

(1843) Dined with Judge Stephen A. Douglas, who is presiding at court. After dinner Judge Douglas requested President Joseph to give him a history of the Missouri persecutions, which he did in a very minute manner, for about three hours. He also gave a relation of his journey to Washington city, and his application in behalf of the Saints to Mr. Van Buren, the President of the United States, for redress and Mr. Van Buren's pusillanimous reply, "Gentlemen, your cause is just, but I can do nothing for you;" and the cold, unfeeling manner in which he was treated by most of the senators and representatives in relation to the subject, Clay saying, "You had better go to Oregon," and Calhoun shaking his head solemnly, saying, "It's a nice question—a critical question, but it will not do to agitate it." 

The judge listened with the greatest attention and spoke warmly in deprecation of the conduct of Governor Boggs and the authorities of Missouri, who had taken part in the extermination, and said that any people that would do as the mobs of Missouri had done ought to be brought to judgment: they ought to be punished.

President Smith, in concluding his remarks, said that if the government, which received into its coffers the money of citizens for its public lands, while its officials are rolling in luxury at the expense of its public treasury, cannot protect such citizens in their lives and property, it is an old granny anyhow; and I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left, for their wickedness in permitting the murder of men, women and children, and the wholesale plunder and extermination of thousands of her citizens to go unpunished, thereby perpetrating a foul and corroding blot upon the fair fame of this great republic, the very thought of which would have caused the high-minded and patriotic framers of the Constitution of the United States to hide their faces with shame. Judge, you will aspire to the presidency of the United States; and if ever you turn your hand against me or the Latter-day Saints, you will feel the weight of the hand of the Almighty upon you; and you will live to see and know that I have testified the truth to you; for the conversation of this day will stick to you through life. 

He [Judge Douglas] appeared very friendly, and acknowledged the truth and propriety of President Smith's remarks. (May 18, 1843.) DHC 5:393-394.

WHY is this most profound part of this purported prophesy, following the evident words, “I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel,” IGNORED? Why has no one of authority ever addressed this? I have already answered… They simply did not know it happened, WHY? 

Steven A. Douglas died June 3rd 1861 just two months after the first shots were fired April 12th 1861 at Fort Sumpter, by Captain George S. James, the Father of Jesse James himself. Judge Douglas did aspire to the presidency.

The Government of the day being the free Republic, NEVER redressed the wrongs committed against the Saints. This leaves the Mormons in a seeming bad position because the majority are convinced that the government has never been over thrown. Apologists will mention Judge Douglas aspiring to the presidency, but none I have found will touch it with a forty foot pole, the most profound part about the government being overthrown and wasted. Why, Why, Why?

If you didn’t get it in previous parts, the Civil War involved 3 players, the North, the South, and the World Bankers, our government being the Free Republic, was without doubt, utterly overthrown and wasted and replaced with a corporation created by these same world bankers finalized in 1871 and called this corporation the UNITED STATES, in order to keep you in the dark as to what happened, they have also used the format of our flag of the free Republic to give you a visual symbol to make you feel all safe and secure, we have not had a legitimate President of the united states of America under the Free Republic since our 16th president.





Saturday, February 15, 2025

Minus one more... regretably

 I regret to have to anounce we have lost one more... many of you from the Treasures of Utah Forum remember Sean Brady, from Evanston Wyoming, username "doorsropen" Sean passed away suddenly Thursday night in his sleep... Sean was 45 years of age.... We are blessed to have had you a part of our forum... Sean was also a very good freind of Paul Tabby, "Tencode"  "Sundance" Whyte Eagle and others.... We will miss you dear freind, I will miss your phone calls... say hello to Paul... Rest in Peace until we meet again...

Our Prayers go out to his Son, family and freinds....


I am embarassed... never thought I would say this but I cannot find my pictures of Sean... if anyone has some please send them to me... tuscoro@gmail.com




Thank You Grady!




Friday, February 7, 2025

The Treasures of Utah FORUM 25th Anniversary

 




The Treasures of Utah FORUM 
Where it all began for many of us...
Founded by Randy Bradford in 2000

Just a heads up, we are planning a pre spring get together in Duchesne County

This event is brought to you by Mountain Home Lodge, Moon Lake Resort, and Tuscoro.com

We encourage those who were and are a part of this historic on-line group to come together in honor of our 25th anniversary, and in remembrance of those interesting times, to get reacquainted, and to pay respect to all those who have since passed on. Newcomers and onlookers are welcome at this gathering for Treasure Hunters...

There is no real itinerary other than a planned question answer engagement and to perhaps converse plans for this upcoming season. This is primarily for the purpose of rekindling old friendships and making new...

This will be a ONE day (Saturday) event with arrivals welcome as early as Friday afternoon, we are leaning towards mid to late March and likely at Mountain Home Lodge... THE DATE is set for March 22nd begining at 5 pm... It will be a "Bring Your Own"... BBQ's available... 

PS... The Lodge is full up! However, if your travel does require overnight accommodations you will need to act quickly. Check with hotels in Duchesne and Roosevelt. Dry camping in the field across the road from the Lodge is available but there are no bathrooms.

PLEASE Comment as to whether you might make it, we are trying to get an idea as to how many might attend... we have weather to consider and accommodations,

Details coming soon, watch for the official announcement!

Thursday, January 30, 2025

TERRA Exploration Group with TEXGRU Technowlogy!

 

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Friday, January 24, 2025

The Fabulous Confederate Treasure Troves

 

First Part of Chapter 14

Jesse James was One of His Names

(The Black Book)


When the bloody Civil War ground to a halt, the South was in ruins, its people were starving and there was complete chaos, but the Confederacy had $7 billion in well-hidden gold reserves, which were immediately made available to the Confederate Underground government headquartered in Nashville, Tennessee.

How much gold was stolen, appropriated or hijacked from the hated damn yankees will probably never be known. It is even difficult to estimate. Union Army payrolls were looted, mule trains carrying the precious metal to the private mint, Clark, Gruber & Company (later the U.S. Denver Mint) were hijacked, gold from the Comstock Lode of Nevada and Mother Lode of California was heisted and daring agents in such Northern cities as New York, Washington and Cincinati raided Union gold stocks.

During the half century that tough, dedicated Colonel Jesse W. James was connected with the Knights of the Golden Circle he ran the value of gold in Confederate caches from $7 billion to $21 billion. This was when a troy fine ounce of gold was selling for $20.67 and placer gold at about $14 an ounce. In 1934 when President Franklin D. Roosevelt raised the price to $35 per troy fine ounce, the value of the depository contents soared to

$36 billion. In January of 1973 the price of gold on the European markets topped $90 an ounce, making the Confederate treasure hoard worth about $100 billion.

This figure is particularly impressive considering foremost geologists estimate the world's known recoverable gold reserve at 1 billion ounces. No figures are available on Russia, but U.S. gold production has been averaging about 1.5 million ounces a year during the past decade.

During a meeting in Southern California on April 18, 1973, with sons and grandsons of Knights of the Golden Circle members, I was told that the confederate Underground infiltrated gold mines around the world and gave out false production figures. For half a century gold was smuggled into the U.S., including $32 million from Afrikaners during the Boer War. Everywhere Confederate agents encouraged miners and stamping mill employees to steal and served as "fences." Many former Confederate officers headed West after the war, prospered and tithed up to 50 per cent of their annual incomes.

A decade ago, a national magazine writer charged that at least $50 billion in U.S. gold had "just disappeared" since colonial times, At one time the U.S. Treasury listed $22 billion in gold reserves, but the vaults at Fort Knox, Kentucky, are bare by comparison today.

With the price of gold fluctuating almost daily, let's use the $35 an ounce figure which was with us for almost four decades. Despite its famous Gold Rush, California ranks well down the line in hidden Confederate gold. Montana-Idaho reportedly contains $4 billion, Texas $2.5 billion, New York $1 billion and California has $500 million.

The amount in the most populous state varies from $41 million in Sacramento to $1.6 million in San Gabiel Canyon and $250,000 in El Monte, which was a Golden Circle head-quarters prior to the Civil War. Nevada City, Grass Valley and Placerville each have about $16 million and Porterville, $3.3 million. There are lesser amounts in Fort Tejon, San Diego, San Pedro, San Jose, San Francisco and Paso Robles, according to the old timers.

New Mexico depositories contain treasure worth $630 million, while Canada has $2.5 billion, Georgia $413 million, the Carolinas $500 million, New England $333 million, Mexico $500 million, Panama $83 million, the Canary Islands $83 million, Illinois $33 million and Oregon, Arizona and Nevada each have $333 million. There is hidden gold in nearly every state in the Union and $83 million lies buried right under Castro's nose in Cuba.

The grandson of a Golden Circle member volunteered, "He told me the depositories or caches were located in the following areas: near state or territorial capitals, near railroad rights-of-way, along principal rivers, beside stage or wagon roads, around Confederate- owned livery stables, near Indian agency headquarters, near bridge or ferry crossings, near smelters or mills and along natural landmarks like the Continental Divide.

"Some of the caches might be safely opened by weekend treasure hunters, but don't trifle with the big depositories. They're booby-trapped from all directions and more than one snooper has been blown to bits by waterproofed explosives which are still deadly."

A number of daring coups which enriched Confederate caches will be described in this chapter. Under Colonel James' direction, Golden Circle agents were sent to Spain and Mexico to ferret out long-lost treasures buried in the United States. The agents promised a percentage of the take to informers. Treasures were dug up and the promises were kept. In addition, restless Golden Circle agents ran down Indian and old prospector legends of lost or buried gold. Many of these treasures were retrieved and placed in Confederate caches. Other gold was dug up in Mexico and Latin America.

In 1930, J. Frank Dobie wrote, "Lost Mines and Buried Treasures of the Southwest." Old Jesse bought a copy and it was soon dog-eared and pages marked with strange symbols. Old Jesse chuckled, "Frank did a hell of a good job compiling all this stuff, but my agents long since checked out 90 per cent of the legends and in many cases The Organization made off with the treasure."

On his 100th birthday in 1944, old Jesse told his closest relatives, "There are no free and easy Confederate treasures, any that an amateur or tenderfoot could locate and dig out on a weekend. He'd need a hell of a lot of inside information. There is a 'key' to Confederate treasure troves. In 1916 we sealed our Golden Circle records for fifty years. So in 1966 - I will be long gone - it won't belong to anybody. I will leave the 'key' to my grandson Lee Howk (Jesse James III). There are no written records of the caches, just signs and symbols, but Lee will have the 'key' - that I assure you."

As an oldster, Jesse often lamented the "untimely deaths of two noble adversaries, detective Allan Pinkerton and financier Jay Gould." Pinkerton died in 1884, Gould in 1892. No, Jesse didn't kill them, but he admitted he had plenty of opportunities.

"Pinkerton and his men made one basic error," old Jesse said, "they were looking for Jesse James' Gang, and not the Confederate Underground Army and they thought the Golden Circle ceased when Lee surrendered. We weren't about to straighten 'em out.

"In the late 1970s, I heard about a law officers' convention in Chicago and decided to attend as a deaf preacher. I was heavily disguised with gold caps on my front teeth and carried an ear horn in one hand and a Bible in the other. I managed to get myself a seat at Allan Pinker-ton's table. If I was asked a question, I'd make heavy use of the ear horn and make an irrelevant, but always pious answer. I'm sure Allan thought I was stone deaf.

"I was delighted when Pinkerton began talking about the 'James Gang'. He had a tendency to brag and he told about elaborate plans to capture the James 'bandits'. Then he grew serious and said, 'Washington has called me in several times concerning thefts of rather appreciable amounts of gold, wondering if the 'James Gang' could be involved. But I told them that Jesse and Frank James are just penny-ante crooks concentrating on $10,000 to $20,000 bank holdups.

"After lunch, I found myself sharing a washroom with Pinkerton and I was tempted to kill him. It would have been so easy, but I reasoned that Pinkerton had the wrong conception of our real activities. Let him believe we were minor crooks and we would go right on filling Confederate caches. That night I told my experiences to Missouri Jesse (Dingus) James, my cousin, and he was blazing mad. He fairly shouted, 'I think you just got 'buck fever', cousin Jesse, and couldn't pull the trigger! You could have snuffed him out so easily - but didn't.' "

Financier Jay Gould enriched Confederate caches or coffers of Jesse's organization by

$30 million, most of it taken at pistol point, but some by shrewd manipulation. "I was in Chicago and read in the papers," Jesse recalled in later years, "that the great financier Jay Gould was going to attend a banquet that night. Pulling a few strings, I got myself invited. I went dressed as a miner. Of course, I was heavily disguised. I developed a bad limp, carried my left arm in a sling and an ear horn in the other. This was in the late 1880s.

"I went brazenly over to the table where Gould was and sat down. He jumped up and shook my hand and asked how I got hurt. I finally had him shouting right in my ear horn. So I nodded and mumbled, "Mining - explosives." I pulled out a chamois bag and rolled some pretty good-sized gold nuggets on the table and Gould's eyes grew big. 'Where?' he asked and I replied, 'I think it's Tuesday.' He kept on asking questions, but I was unable to hear and gave him the wrong answers. He finally gave up on me, considering me hopelessly deaf. That's what I wanted him to think.

"While I ate, I placed my ear horn on the floor so Jay Gould felt free to discuss his railroad plans with others at the table, who were all his associates. I learned plenty that night. Then Gould began complaining-about 'raids' on his payrolls. An associate said, 'Maybe Jesse James isn't dead after all, Mr. Gould.' My heart almost stopped pumping. Gould replied, Tm going to be candid with you gentlemen. I, too, have heard that Jesse wasn't really murdered back in '82. In a way, the pattern does resemble that used by Jesse James during the Civil War.

"'He stole a lot of money from me and I had him outlawed by pulling a few strings in Washington. In a way, I hated to because did I ever tell you I knew the entire James family when they had the plantation down in Kentucky? Well, that's another story. I've done a lot of thinking about our financial drain and it smacks of Jesse's guerrilla tactics. Hell, if Jesse James walked into this room right now I wouldn't be one bit surprised. He's a wily one, slippery as a goddam eel and durable as an elephant. But I'll tell you one thing, Jesse James never lacked in guts or daring.'

"Needless to say, that was quite an accolade coming from old Gould. I had a hard time going to sleep that night. It was amazing how close he had come to figuring me out. They say every crook has a modus operandi. If mine was following a pattern in Gould's mind, it was time we altered our methods. So we did. I didn't want to read such a headline: JESSE JAMES ALIVE - LEADER OF CONFEDERATE UNDERGROUND ARMY."

The Golden Circle spared no expense in burying its gold. It employed the best engineers and the most modern equipment available. Jesse said, "I always insisted on using either Negroes or Indians as laborers. Seldom employed a white man. I understood Indians and Negroes and on the whole they were more trustworthy."

Many of the caches were located near railroad lines, although some were situated in remote regions. Jesse James employed a large number of railroad detectives or agents, who rode his own line and those belonging to the competition. Sometimes engineers, along with detectives, were paid by the Golden Circle to "keep their eyes open" along certain stretches and to report anything suspicious. Of course, these paid employees were not told what they were protecting, but an extra $50 a month kept them vigilant.

Mining companies also employed a network of agents to report "unusual activities." The Confederate Underground was busy sinking shafts for caches, many of them booby trapped, and this could pass for "mining." Golden Circle agents were merciless and many a "snooper" was tracked down and killed before he could file a report. "Shoot - and ask questions later," was Colonel James' standing order to his secret operatives. Another order was, "Better to kill a man than be sorry." On rare occasions a Golden Circle agent would violate his blood oath and attempt to slip back and recover some of the buried loot. The man was invariably shot because Jesse kept a concealed guard around a new cache for generally a month. After that, it was periodically inspected to see if it had been tampered with.

One peace officer in Oklahoma spent twenty years working to open a Confederate trove. How he learned about it is unknown, but old Jesse did some checking and found out the officer's father had been a member of the Golden Circle. Jesse reasoned his father had revealed the secret on his death bed.

Trusting no one, the peace officer did the digging himself. Apparently his father had told him where the booby-trap was because the digger tunneled around this area. The officer never told his wife what he was doing on weekends but said, "If I ever disappear, get hold of the Texas Rangers and have them get in touch with Colonel J. Frank Dalton."

A month later, Jesse sat in the widow's kitchen and it suddenly came to him what had happened to her husband. A trusted crony drove Jesse to the spot. The cache was concealed by heavy undergrowth. Jesse told his friend to wait while he climbed the hill. The old Golden Circle chief saw at a glance what had happened. Engineers had damned up a spring and this small body of water had broken through the digger's tunnel, drowning him. For a moment, Jesse stood and paid a tribute to the oldtimers' precautions. Then he went back into town and told the anxious widow, "Well, I thought I might know where your husband was, but he ain't. I'm sorry."

Did old Jesse ever open any of the Confederate caches? Yes, he did during the depression. He opened a cache in Texas and took out $10 million to help prop up three Texas banks, which had been founded by old time Confederate families. He reasoned, "The oath stated they'd never be touched unless the 'nation' was in dire straits. Well, these three banks were fighting to keep their doors open. There were breadlines and people were desperate and angry. I'd have opened every damn Confederate cache in the country to keep the United States from going Bolshevik and would not have violated my oath in any way."

Even with his vast financial empire, the old man was pressed for cash during the depression. Accompanied by his grandson, Jesse III, he retrieved three of his "personal caches." He took $125,000 from a cave near Gad's Hill, Missouri; about $75,000 from a cemetery in northeastern Arkansas and $100,000 from the east side of an ancient Indian burial mound on the Bayou Macon north of Delhi, Louisiana.

Jesse III recalls, "That was quite a sight. We checked into the Washington Urey Hotel in downtown Shreveport. The year was 1939. The tires on my car were almost flat from the heavy load. Old Jesse looked over the hotel's help and selected two husky young Negroes. He asked, 'Can you boys keep your mouths shut?' Then he gave each of them a

$100 bill and they hauled the treasure, mostly in gold coins, up to our room. Then Jesse called a banker friend, told him to bring $100,000 in 'big bills', an armored car and a couple of husky men.

"The old banker's eyes bulged out when he saw the grain sacks full of coins. He'd known Jesse for years so couldn't have been too surprised. Jesse said, 'Now I counted this stuff some fifty years ago when I buried it. It amounted to $100,000 then and we got all of it. I'll settle for $100,000 in green stuff - it's handier to carry around. Some of these coins are quite old and are probably collector's items, but my loss is your gain. You can count it down at the bank to make sure I didn't cheat you. You know I'm Jesse James so you can't be too damn careful.' Well, the old banker almost apologized when he handed Jesse

$100,000 in $100 bills. His men took the coins and departed. When we got ready to retire, old Jesse stuck his fat wallet under the mattress and made sure his .38 calibre Smith & Wesson was loaded. In a minute he was snoring."

If Jesse III has the "key" to the string of Confederate depositories, why doesn't he just go ahead and dig them up?

He replies, "The answer to this is quite complex. First, you have the federal and state governments and federal judges to consider. If my grandfather and The Knights of the Golden Circle stole this gold from the federal government would it be considered 'treasure trove' or 'contraband'? Various states have worked out 'treasure trove' laws which in most cases are quite fair.

"But what if it is 'contraband'? That is another matter and the federal government would confiscate it, legally saying it was merely recovering property stolen from it. What if I went to Washington and worked out an arrangement with the President of the United States and the Congress -say a 50-50 split? I would use the argument, 'Do you want the stuff to remain hidden in the ground or would you rather have $30 billion unexpected funds to play with?' Maybe I'd settle for 10 per cent, or 5 per cent or 1 per cent. The deal was all set so I'd borrow money and go ahead and dig out the rich Curious Mule Treasure. While I was wiping the sweat off my brow and waiting for federal auditors to weigh in the treasure, some screwball federal judge might rule my agreement was 'illegal' and it would all go to the federal coffers. I'd be up the proverbial creek without a paddle!"

Jesse III found himself in such a position in 1962 when he and an Indian guide from the old Santa Clara Indian Reservation at Espanola, New Mexico, found a $700,000 gold cache stashed away by Grandpa Jesse in the mid 1880s. Old Jesse had grub staked an old prospector who had a mine in the James Mountains near Coyote, New Mexico. The prospector hit and Jesse came down with mules to claim his one-third share. There were 14Va 100-pound ingots of 87 per cent gold. Taking a shortcut to Santa Fe, old Jesse's mule train was bombarded by a violent storm and half of his mules drowned. He and his men buried the gold under a ledge. Before he died, old Jesse said, "I'll give you the directions. It was not Confederate gold, but belonged to me so it's yours when you find it."

After Jesse III and his Indian guide uncovered the gold, an unexpected heavy snow blanketed the area. When he went back in the spring, Jesse III found the Indian had moved the gold, which was located on the Santa Clara Reservation. The guide had "blabbed" and three or four Indians were killed over the gold discovery incident. So Jesse III, who had originally promised the chief that the reservation could have half of the gold, tried to get his former guide to disclose the new hiding place. When all efforts failed, Jesse III went into U.S. Federal District Court in Albuquerque and the judge ruled the gold belonged to Jesse III.

"Despite the decision, the Indian still refused to disclose its new hiding place. In the meantime, a newspaper publisher applied a little heat in Washington and legal blocks were strewn in my path. I didn't have the funds to fight any more so I went back to Colorado.

"The New Mexico case, which I won, opened up quite a can of worms. Sweet old Aunt Cora, the daughter of Jesse Woodson James and Maggie Matuska, a Sioux Indian woman, was living in Nashville, Tennessee, and when she heard about the decision she immediately began an action to attach the cache, charging she was a closer relative to old Jesse Woodson James than I was.

"And other James relatives living throughout the country under assumed names began to make noises. Now, I don't mean all of old Jesse's kin. Some of them stood by me through thick and thin. They had kept their names during the many years old Jesse was an exile in his own land. But I suddenly realized that 32nd cousins would hire shysters and have their hands out once any of old Jesse's assets were uncovered. It was a very sobering thought.

"Now the same thing could happen if the old Confederate depositories were opened. There would be a flurry of lawsuits of every description, judges would hand down some complicated and strange decisions, the country might be in chaos - it seems to be an old American custom to fight over inheritances or recovered treasure."

Jesse III and his attorney, John Gately, of Santa Fe, New Mexico, in 1967 located "The Master Compass Treasure" site in New Mexico by following old symbols, which professors of natural history term ancient Indian pictographs. "A treasure," Jesse III says, "just doesn't leap out at you and yell, 'Here I am. I am a buried treasure!' "

After taking a false trail or two by misreading the "compass feathers," the hikers located the hidden springs and suddenly stood in awe. Jesse III said, "There carved on a wall in all its majesty was a great historical panel which told the strange story of the Confederate 'lost cause'. I had left my camera in the car and neither John nor I were prepared to dig that day so we made plans to return with a pickup truck in two weeks. Then John made a grievous error. He took off his scarf and tied it to a bush at the edge of the great panel, arguing that we'd be able to spot the scarf from the road below. I compounded the error by not removing the scarf."

Apparently the two hikers had been spotted by a couple of young Mexican-American boys, who were prepared to dig as soon as the pair left. The lads found a chest containing

$55,000 in rare, century-old coins, but the bank paid them only face value. "But," says Jesse III, "the main treasure taken from Grandpa's wagon train still lies buried somewhere near the great panel. John Gately died, I got involved in the Santa Clara Reservation mess, then family illnesses and I've never been back."

Because Jesse III was raised at his old Confederate grandfather's knee, I've detected that Jesse III has a great sentimentality about the old caches. A few years ago, Jesse III gathered two trusted friends in Dallas and formalized plans to open a Confederate depository containing $8 million in Oklahoma. Jesse III said he had been studying the symbols and believed he had pinpointed the cache.

"I don't remember why, but one of my friends brought along a tenderfoot, a real ringer. It was February, cold and damp and I caught a severe cold. Then it began to rain and I was unable to spot an important clue, two large boulders, side by side. I suggested we return to town and try at a later date. The greenhorn jumped up, yelling, 'You're trying to gyp me out of my $2 million share! I never trusted Texans anyway!' On the way back into town, facing pneumonia, I asked myself, 'Why am I doing this? Who is this damn fool I just met two days ago who is demanding his share and accusing me of dishonesty?' Back in town, I told my friends I was calling off the hunt and returning to Dallas. I thought of all the blood that had been shed by those old Southerners to steal the gold and the sweat they'd expended to cache it away. This greenhorn had killed any desire I had to retrieve the trove."

Jesse III says the treasure symbols appear to be everywhere. "I've observed them in Missouri, Illinois, Ohio, Iowa, Minnesota, the Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, California, Oregon, Idaho, Washington and even Florida." The symbols are not always arrows, turkey tracks, snakes and birds, but sometimes they are the old Confederate Army Code. Every venture old Jesse's organization did was in multiples of 3s, 5s and 7s. On rare occasions they switched to 4s, 7s and 11s."

If the booby traps, sudden floods and hidden spears don't get the treasure hunter, "black damp" will. Colorado City, now Colorado Springs, along with Canton, Texas, became a Confederate Underground center after the capital closed down in Nashville in about 1884. Old Jesse ordered a network of deep tunnels and rooms built underground. Work went on so quietly that residents never dreamed they even existed. At one time, precious metal and guns were stored in the secret rooms and tunnels, but they have been sealed up to keep out children. Without being ventilated, poking into the labyrinth of tunnels would be suicide. Two sniffs of "black damp" will kill you.

Following is a list of approximately a hundred Confederate depositories (in some cases the amounts are given):....


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